Fossils First, Renewables Later: The Cost of Delay – Podcast
13 November 2025 – by Editorial Team
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In this episode of Energy Insights, host Stephen sits down with Katherine Hasan, Analyst at the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA), to unpack Indonesia’s latest power plan — and the widening gap between climate ambition and reality.
Despite strong public messaging on renewables, Indonesia’s RUPTL 2025–2034 places fossil fuels at the centre of the next decade, delaying meaningful renewable expansion until the 2030s. Katherine explains why this “fossils first, renewables later” approach risks locking the country into high emissions, stranded assets, and rising power costs — and what it means for Indonesia’s net-zero commitments.
We explore the policy barriers slowing renewable scale-up, the financial consequences of continued coal and gas investment, and the opportunities Indonesia is missing at a decisive moment for the energy transition.
LinkedIn: Katherine Hasan
